Twin Peaks Usenet Archive

Subject: Re: ``Wait here''revisited:That was no Mountie!!!
From: (R o d Johnson)
Date: 1990-12-26, 13:17

In article <5794@peplinsk> hans@Software.Mitel.COM (Hans Johnsen) writes:

> >Think about some of the
> >examples. Coop is a stereotypical police officer who turns out to use
> >very unconventional methods. 

How is Coop stereotypical?  From the very first time we see him, he's
spouting quirky things into his recorder.  Throughout the pilot he's
amazing people with his intuition and seeming lack of need for
conventional methods.

> >Albert is a stereotypical intellectual
> >snob, but this stereotype is blown away with the 'sultan of sentiment'
> >speech and others.

I don't know if I'd accuse Albert of ever acting like an "intellectual
snob", but even if so, how is this stereotype blown away?  "I've got
sentiment running out my NOSE, pal" isn't exactly tender, solicitous,
caring, emotional talk.

> >Lucy is the 'typical' dumb weak female receptionist
> >who turns out to be both strong and intelligent. 

How has Lucy turned out to be strong or intelligent so far?  She's
been strong-willed about her baby and its father(s), but she seems to
work mainly by pouting and scolding.  Not exactly what I would call stereotype-breaking.

> >Nadine is also a
> >'typical' weak female who is now surprisingly strong :->, and self
> >confident (she is talking about 'breaking up with' ed). 

When was Nadine ever weak?  The first thing we ever heard her say was

> >Donna was a
> >'typical' innocent teenage girl.

And, um, now?

> >Look for these stereotypes to be broken in the future:

[. . .]

> >the mountie: I'm not sure how they'll resolve this one without doing
> >something obvious like having Jean Renaud say "You stupid americans!
> >don't you know that mounties don't wear those ridiculous uniforms
> >anymore?" (Of course in his 'typical' french-Canadian Accent)

Well, now, the mountie's hardly a character at all.  And
mounties-in-dress-uniforms is hardly a stereotype of Canadians.  An
(incongrouous (deliberately?)) image, perhaps, but I doubt if the
disquisition on the symbolic meaning of Canada in the American psyche
is where Twin Peaks is really going.

> >btw: The comment about 'the territory'. I took it in its more broad
> >meaning, like the territory around OEJ's.

It was "the northern territories", wasn't it?  Which is not
necessarily the Northwest Territories, nor any other piece of real
Canadian geography. How do we know how the fictive criminal
underground of TP divides up geography?  For all we know, "northern
territories" includes everything north of the equator.

-- Rod Johnson * * (313) 650 2315 "Stop whining and enjoy the puppet show" --Richard Gehr